SUGGESTION BOX
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michaeljohnesplago08
anto07
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Jasmin C Labarda 2003
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SUGGESTION BOX
Duces:
The issue regarding the NAC paper has prompted me to post this new topic.
Here we could raise all other issues and give suggestions for improvement involving other institutions/offices outside ASMAAPI.
Since the President, in his busy schedule, will find time to read the Forum, he can get ideas from here and with his meetings with other officials of the country/maritime sector, our issue will soon reach the concerned parties.
It is for the good of all Filipino people (naks)... so I encourage everyone to be active...
instead of just murmuring and grudging all the not-so-good things happening in our environment...
now we can do something about it... lest we die of heart attack, no!
So, open up... voice it out...
parang bayan mo, ipatrol mo...
The issue regarding the NAC paper has prompted me to post this new topic.
Here we could raise all other issues and give suggestions for improvement involving other institutions/offices outside ASMAAPI.
Since the President, in his busy schedule, will find time to read the Forum, he can get ideas from here and with his meetings with other officials of the country/maritime sector, our issue will soon reach the concerned parties.
It is for the good of all Filipino people (naks)... so I encourage everyone to be active...
instead of just murmuring and grudging all the not-so-good things happening in our environment...
now we can do something about it... lest we die of heart attack, no!
So, open up... voice it out...
parang bayan mo, ipatrol mo...
Jasmin C Labarda 2003- Compliant
- Number of posts : 42
Age : 41
Location : Dasmarinas, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-04
PRC
if you apply for new licence, COC, etc you will need to submit a dozen of requirment.
of course, reasonable lang un marahil, kasi first time eh...
pero bakit naman, kapag renewal na eh, isa-submit mo pa ulit ang mga nasubmit mo nung first time kang nag apply.
Worst! mas marami pa nga ang renewal requirement eh...
ang daming nasasayang, una... ang effort, time at energy ng mga professionals (particularly sa maritime), to gather again and again ang mga document..
second, sayang sa papel at pera... kasi xerox ka na naman... bayad ka na naman ng authentication or ng notaryo...
paulit ulit...
samantalang, come to think of it... in the first place hindi naman magrerenew ang isang tao kung hindi sya nakapag submit ng mga valid document nung una pa lang...
the fact na nagrerenew na lang sya it only means na active pa sya sa work, may paggagamitan sya nun, at hindi sya nagloloko sa PRC...
so bakit ang dami pang seremonyas lagi sa PRC?
kung pwede naman sa simbahan agad ang tuloy, di ba...
of course, reasonable lang un marahil, kasi first time eh...
pero bakit naman, kapag renewal na eh, isa-submit mo pa ulit ang mga nasubmit mo nung first time kang nag apply.
Worst! mas marami pa nga ang renewal requirement eh...
ang daming nasasayang, una... ang effort, time at energy ng mga professionals (particularly sa maritime), to gather again and again ang mga document..
second, sayang sa papel at pera... kasi xerox ka na naman... bayad ka na naman ng authentication or ng notaryo...
paulit ulit...
samantalang, come to think of it... in the first place hindi naman magrerenew ang isang tao kung hindi sya nakapag submit ng mga valid document nung una pa lang...
the fact na nagrerenew na lang sya it only means na active pa sya sa work, may paggagamitan sya nun, at hindi sya nagloloko sa PRC...
so bakit ang dami pang seremonyas lagi sa PRC?
kung pwede naman sa simbahan agad ang tuloy, di ba...
Jasmin C Labarda 2003- Compliant
- Number of posts : 42
Age : 41
Location : Dasmarinas, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-04
MEDICAL
Lahat na lang kelangan ng medical...
mag board exam ka, medical.
mag coc ka, medical
mag renew ka, medical
siguro para malamang... hindi baliw ang isang propesyonal...
kaso, it is not for them naman to determine kung baliw ang isang tao or hindi...
kasi may employer pa naman... hindi makaksakay ng barko, kung hindi fit ang isang tao...
so bakit, kahit may valid ka nang medical sa employer mo (nowadays, 2 years ang medical validity),
kahit na papasakayin ka na ng barko, hindi ka pa rin okay sa PRC... gusto nila 1 year lang...
hindi pa ba sapat ung proof na pasado ka sa requirment ng office?
mag board exam ka, medical.
mag coc ka, medical
mag renew ka, medical
siguro para malamang... hindi baliw ang isang propesyonal...
kaso, it is not for them naman to determine kung baliw ang isang tao or hindi...
kasi may employer pa naman... hindi makaksakay ng barko, kung hindi fit ang isang tao...
so bakit, kahit may valid ka nang medical sa employer mo (nowadays, 2 years ang medical validity),
kahit na papasakayin ka na ng barko, hindi ka pa rin okay sa PRC... gusto nila 1 year lang...
hindi pa ba sapat ung proof na pasado ka sa requirment ng office?
Jasmin C Labarda 2003- Compliant
- Number of posts : 42
Age : 41
Location : Dasmarinas, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-04
PHOTOCOPY
try nyong magpasa ng original document sa PRC
at umalis na kayo...
asahan nyong hindi uusad ang mga papeles nyo...
kasi ayaw nila ng original...
photocopy ang kelangan nila...
ito'y kahit isang file lamang ang original na naipasa mo
at pwede naman nilang xerox ung kaisa isang papeles na un...
nope! Nah!... Nevah!
example,
kahit na iniwan mo na sa kanila ang copy ng medical certificate mo...
medical certificate mo na hindi mo naman kailangan kasi meron ka namang
medical certificate na valid sa opisina mo...
kaso 1 year lang ang kelangan nila, so nag medical ka ulit...
knowing na original na un, mas oks kaysa sa photocopy lang.
at dahil sa di mo naman tlaga kakailanganin na un, ay
iyon ang sinubmit mo sa kanila...
kaso hindi nga pwede eh!
xerex nga lang eh...
este, xerox nga lang kasi.
at umalis na kayo...
asahan nyong hindi uusad ang mga papeles nyo...
kasi ayaw nila ng original...
photocopy ang kelangan nila...
ito'y kahit isang file lamang ang original na naipasa mo
at pwede naman nilang xerox ung kaisa isang papeles na un...
nope! Nah!... Nevah!
example,
kahit na iniwan mo na sa kanila ang copy ng medical certificate mo...
medical certificate mo na hindi mo naman kailangan kasi meron ka namang
medical certificate na valid sa opisina mo...
kaso 1 year lang ang kelangan nila, so nag medical ka ulit...
knowing na original na un, mas oks kaysa sa photocopy lang.
at dahil sa di mo naman tlaga kakailanganin na un, ay
iyon ang sinubmit mo sa kanila...
kaso hindi nga pwede eh!
xerex nga lang eh...
este, xerox nga lang kasi.
Jasmin C Labarda 2003- Compliant
- Number of posts : 42
Age : 41
Location : Dasmarinas, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-04
Commendable Idea Ma'am
Since the President, in his busy schedule, will find time to read the Forum, he can get ideas from here and with his meetings with other officials of the country/maritime sector, our issue will soon reach the concerned parties.
this is a good idea ma'am. rest assured na these ideas will be consolidated and will be used for improvement and benefit of all concerned.
i will suggest po sa Board of Trustees na magkaroon ng isang specific person among the Board to have in charge of External Affairs. Sa ngaun po we are drafting specific job description ng mga officers. and your idea came just right in time.
thank you po again.
Re: SUGGESTION BOX
good eve ma'am..
john delos santos of priveneas07 po..
as far as i can see, yong problem po sa paperworks at sa madaming requirements na hinihingi nila eh katulad din po ng matagal ng problem ng marami sa atin regarding sa beurocracy sa bansa natin..na ang simpleng solution na nakikita ko eh ang magkaroon ng isang " information bank" for all kung saan pwedi nila store lahat ng infos na kailangan nila para tuwing pupunta tayo sa mga gov't agency eh hindi na natin kailangan pa magdala ng naparaming papers na itatambak lang nila at itatapon din...lahat naman ng papers na submit natin sa kanila eh for formalities lang, which in many cases pwedi mo dayain sa Recto...
so, kung di natin mababago system ng governament satin at pamamalakad nila sa mga sangay nila, sorry na lang tayo..patuloy pa din tayo mag-submit ng napakadaming papers for application...
john delos santos of priveneas07 po..
as far as i can see, yong problem po sa paperworks at sa madaming requirements na hinihingi nila eh katulad din po ng matagal ng problem ng marami sa atin regarding sa beurocracy sa bansa natin..na ang simpleng solution na nakikita ko eh ang magkaroon ng isang " information bank" for all kung saan pwedi nila store lahat ng infos na kailangan nila para tuwing pupunta tayo sa mga gov't agency eh hindi na natin kailangan pa magdala ng naparaming papers na itatambak lang nila at itatapon din...lahat naman ng papers na submit natin sa kanila eh for formalities lang, which in many cases pwedi mo dayain sa Recto...
so, kung di natin mababago system ng governament satin at pamamalakad nila sa mga sangay nila, sorry na lang tayo..patuloy pa din tayo mag-submit ng napakadaming papers for application...
anto07- Noob
- Number of posts : 12
Age : 41
Location : SAZ
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-21
Live the dreams!
For every solution there will always be an answer... The only solution for one to effect the changes in the government is to be part of the bureaucracy, however when your up there in that post can you assure yourself that you still wanted to effect the developments of the system or you have become like the tyrant you once wanted to destroy or worst a complete replica that tyrant. We are in need of good not great leaders to effect change, keep those dreams alive sir/mam and I know we will be there in no time. I'm with you.
michaeljohnesplago08- Supporter
- Number of posts : 192
Age : 36
Location : Bacoor, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-30
Yes.
michaeljohnesplago08 wrote:For every solution there will always be an answer... The only solution for one to effect the changes in the government is to be part of the bureaucracy, however when your up there in that post can you assure yourself that you still wanted to effect the developments of the system or you have become like the tyrant you once wanted to destroy or worst a complete replica that tyrant. We are in need of good not great leaders to effect change, keep those dreams alive sir/mam and I know we will be there in no time. I'm with you.
Yes Michael. We sorely need leaders.
The Society is anchoring their hopes to the innate concern of the Alumni that one way or another, when our turn comes to lead, we will be guided towards the right path through our Core Values- what is important to us and what we believe in.
Tyranny has many forms. According to Ambeth Ocampo, history does not repeat itself and that it is us who repeat history. The main point here is choice.
We hope that all Dux will be guided by their Core Values when making a choice.
Following seas to all.
benefits
wow naman ang mga replies ah...
serious... hehe
kelangan na talaga ng Barack
Yes we can!
Another suggestion or opinion.. or whatever u may want to call it.
Sana lahat ng mga graduates ng maap ay maging amosup member, magamit ang mga
facility sa seaman's hospital, etc, as long as na sumasakay ngbarko ha.
kasi, di naman option ng mga alumni na hindi member ang company nila sa CBA ng amosup.
eh for those, who are very aware and using our benefits sa Amosup, napakagandang maging member pa rin tayo, being maap alumni.
This is something we could raise perhaps.
serious... hehe
kelangan na talaga ng Barack
Yes we can!
Another suggestion or opinion.. or whatever u may want to call it.
Sana lahat ng mga graduates ng maap ay maging amosup member, magamit ang mga
facility sa seaman's hospital, etc, as long as na sumasakay ngbarko ha.
kasi, di naman option ng mga alumni na hindi member ang company nila sa CBA ng amosup.
eh for those, who are very aware and using our benefits sa Amosup, napakagandang maging member pa rin tayo, being maap alumni.
This is something we could raise perhaps.
Jasmin C Labarda 2003- Compliant
- Number of posts : 42
Age : 41
Location : Dasmarinas, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-04
korekek!
tama po ma'am Jas..
pro mging members po not jst for the benefits...
icpin na rn na ang mga AMOSUP members ang sumusuporta sa ating academy...
if we want our academy to continue its operations eh dapat may mga members na tumutulong at sumusuporta.. and who else ung mga dapat tumulong at sumuporta sa ating academy kundi tayo rin po mismo...
(sana walang violent reaction)
hehehe!
pro mging members po not jst for the benefits...
icpin na rn na ang mga AMOSUP members ang sumusuporta sa ating academy...
if we want our academy to continue its operations eh dapat may mga members na tumutulong at sumusuporta.. and who else ung mga dapat tumulong at sumuporta sa ating academy kundi tayo rin po mismo...
(sana walang violent reaction)
hehehe!
bubie_garcia05- Compliant
- Number of posts : 51
Age : 41
Location : biƱan, laguna
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-15
Sana nga po...
Tama nga po mam sana nga po kasi last time na nagapply kami kailangan daw ng contract so meaning after first contract namin sa amosup. so currently hindi pa po kami member ng amosup.
about pala mam dun sa rights natin as maap graduates, dun sa pagsakay natin sa amosup-membered vessels, eh kasi may isang scenario po ng alumni natin na napasakay ng non-amosup vessel and unfortunately po eh sobrang baba as in baba po talaga yung rate nya and nalaman nya lang na hindi po pala amosup-membered yung vessel nya. When I have brought this upon the attention of the President eh sabi nya nga po eh dapat daw po sa amosup sya napasakay and afterwards this was brought up to the principal and fortunately positive naman yung response nung company and sabi na babawi na lang daw po sila dun sa alumni during his/her next vessel. Likewise, still uncertain pa rin po ako sa system though as far as I remember and my memory serves me right my nasign po tayo na MOA with MAAP to serve under AMOSUP vessels for 5 years... though however established the system maybe may part din po satin na minsan its hard to speak up for our rights or even inquire our benefits kasi baka makita na negative yung actions natin. Parang balik po dun sa pagiging 4th class na confused yung thinking in this cases. But as I talked to most of my seniors I realized that speaking up or inquiring to rights and priviledges is not negative its just a matter of how we raise it. And that they told me that I must realize that I am already in the real world wherein I myself assures my future and holds whatever path I take cause in the end its not the company that takes us to where we will be it will still lie on our perseverance and aggressiveness to strive for whatever goal we deem attainable.
about pala mam dun sa rights natin as maap graduates, dun sa pagsakay natin sa amosup-membered vessels, eh kasi may isang scenario po ng alumni natin na napasakay ng non-amosup vessel and unfortunately po eh sobrang baba as in baba po talaga yung rate nya and nalaman nya lang na hindi po pala amosup-membered yung vessel nya. When I have brought this upon the attention of the President eh sabi nya nga po eh dapat daw po sa amosup sya napasakay and afterwards this was brought up to the principal and fortunately positive naman yung response nung company and sabi na babawi na lang daw po sila dun sa alumni during his/her next vessel. Likewise, still uncertain pa rin po ako sa system though as far as I remember and my memory serves me right my nasign po tayo na MOA with MAAP to serve under AMOSUP vessels for 5 years... though however established the system maybe may part din po satin na minsan its hard to speak up for our rights or even inquire our benefits kasi baka makita na negative yung actions natin. Parang balik po dun sa pagiging 4th class na confused yung thinking in this cases. But as I talked to most of my seniors I realized that speaking up or inquiring to rights and priviledges is not negative its just a matter of how we raise it. And that they told me that I must realize that I am already in the real world wherein I myself assures my future and holds whatever path I take cause in the end its not the company that takes us to where we will be it will still lie on our perseverance and aggressiveness to strive for whatever goal we deem attainable.
michaeljohnesplago08- Supporter
- Number of posts : 192
Age : 36
Location : Bacoor, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-30
Re: SUGGESTION BOX
ang haba ng speech..... pedeng pang president na speech yan...
e bat yung sinakyan ko di rin amosup pero bakit malaki ang rate...
nasayo kasi yan kung gusto mo sakyan o hindi...
getssss nyo... kunag ayaw mo ng sweldo edi wag ka pumirma, ganun lang yun...
baka natatakot ka na baka hindi ka na pasakayin... kala ko ba MAAP ka buo ang loob...
e bat yung sinakyan ko di rin amosup pero bakit malaki ang rate...
nasayo kasi yan kung gusto mo sakyan o hindi...
getssss nyo... kunag ayaw mo ng sweldo edi wag ka pumirma, ganun lang yun...
baka natatakot ka na baka hindi ka na pasakayin... kala ko ba MAAP ka buo ang loob...
daNiel ma' RopET's '03- Noob
- Number of posts : 692
Age : 42
Location : QC and bataan
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2008-11-01
TUMPAK!
Ayon pa pala sir tama po kayo kasi nga po pala napilitan syang magsign tapos nung nasabi na nya eh sabi naman ni sir eh nakapagsign na ng contract at nasa barko na, too late.
michaeljohnesplago08- Supporter
- Number of posts : 192
Age : 36
Location : Bacoor, Cavite
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2009-01-30
Re: SUGGESTION BOX
anu ba yan... malamang '08 yun kaya ganun... kasi kung '03 yan di yan ganyan...
tatawa tawa malamang yung company na yun, sabi siguro hahahahah ganyan lang pala rate ng MAAP, world class pala hahah...
tatawa tawa malamang yung company na yun, sabi siguro hahahahah ganyan lang pala rate ng MAAP, world class pala hahah...
daNiel ma' RopET's '03- Noob
- Number of posts : 692
Age : 42
Location : QC and bataan
Merit Points :
Registration date : 2008-11-01
addtl. info
im updating may coc as chiefmate and as usual bagong resulutions nanaman ang gusto ng PRC.
kase ngayon sa deck eh kailangan ung MLC f1 and f2 eh may assesment ka then ung f3 eh kukunin mo for 10 days...then thats the time na makakakuha ka ng COC
minsan naiisip ko parang ung pumasa ka sa board exam eh wala ng bearing kase after ng board eh dami mo pa ring kukunin na requirements...
nung kinuha ko ung assesment ng exam F1 and F2 eh sa training center then once na maipasa mo eh bibigyan ka na ng certificate... ung prize ng assesment eh 3k php per function .... imagine that prize for that assesment mas mahal pa 3 times sa examination fee ng PRC...
ung ibang seaman eh they will just say ung word na...'ok lang yan dahil pag akto mo eh kikitain mo rin yan.....
kaya minsan ang hirap magpakilala na seaman dahil ang tigin sau eh parang walking dollar hehehehehe..
kase ngayon sa deck eh kailangan ung MLC f1 and f2 eh may assesment ka then ung f3 eh kukunin mo for 10 days...then thats the time na makakakuha ka ng COC
minsan naiisip ko parang ung pumasa ka sa board exam eh wala ng bearing kase after ng board eh dami mo pa ring kukunin na requirements...
nung kinuha ko ung assesment ng exam F1 and F2 eh sa training center then once na maipasa mo eh bibigyan ka na ng certificate... ung prize ng assesment eh 3k php per function .... imagine that prize for that assesment mas mahal pa 3 times sa examination fee ng PRC...
ung ibang seaman eh they will just say ung word na...'ok lang yan dahil pag akto mo eh kikitain mo rin yan.....
kaya minsan ang hirap magpakilala na seaman dahil ang tigin sau eh parang walking dollar hehehehehe..
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