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Post  philip caesar cruz 05 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:09 pm

sa dami ng mga barko na naglalayag ngayon sa karagatan.. affected ba tau ng recession??
ang balita ay ang anchorage ng singapore ngaun ay puno na..
ang dami na ring nakatali na barko..

pano gagawin natin pra di tau affected??
magturo na lng kaya tau sa maap, sa mga training centers or magtrabaho sa mga shipping offices??
Godbless sa lahat at sa mga susunod sa yapak ng mga alumni!!
maap rules!!

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aye sir

Post  sayaman08 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:16 pm

kya nga po sir pahirapan po mksakay smin kc anchorage n ung barko sa subic..marami n na offhire n barko smin.,yan nga rin pangamba q ngaun sir as of now ang impact sa company nmin sa ratings lang pero after 2 years or more sabi samin ng company bka ang mging basis n nila ng hiring personal interview between the employer and the applicant..sana bumalik n sa dati sir..anyway wla nman dapat tau ipangamba ksi i do believe dalwa lang ang ngeexist n maritime institution MAAP and the rest...hehehhee

sabi nga sa company MAAP is the best source for crew joining as officers..mabuhay mga DUX

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Re: Recession.. affected ba tau?? or affected na??

Post  tomdrixEstoce05 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:57 pm

all countries is affected with this crisis just keep ang open eye, ears at isama m n nose (hehe)...mkiramdam, and be very wise s earnings ntin for this tym requires such tsaka mrami nman tyong options kya nga thats the advantage of graduating from maap...

lyf is like football u take one inch at a tym (any given sunday), an inch too late or an inch too early cud be a miss ...

Gudluk and Godbless mga Dux

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Post  almarzalmario'03 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:13 pm

as of now affected ang shipping ung iba NKTALI SA SUBIC TOTOO YUN SA KLINE SLOW STEAMING N MGA BRKO TO SAVE FUEL naabtan ko p lst year pro tuloy p rin nmn ang pooling ng tao

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Post  hffederico_04 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:54 am

Yup, affected na tayo.. according to sources (na nag cicirculate ngayon sa mga shipping company)... 30% of Bulk carriers eh off hire na...50% of Car Carriers trading US eh off hire narin... Sa containers yung mga mid size off hire narin..the reason.. less ang production..less ang demand...less ang supply...kaya less ang byahe.less ang tao...

Bagsak narin ang rate per day ng mga hired vessels...example for a Panamax bulk carrier..dati 75,000USD/day..ngayon 12,000USD/day nalang...

Sa tankers i havent heard so much na affeted sila ng recesion...but..dahil sa mura ng per barrel ng crude oil ngayon..may resulotion sila na i-control ang production or pag labas ng langis... for example, kung nag lalabas sila ng 100,000 barrels/day... gagawin nilang 50,000 nalng para tumaas ulet ang value...nag uumpisa na yan sa LPG..iniipit nila sa mga refinery para mag mahal ulet...

Sa manning naman...officers are not so much affected...in demand parin naman sila....kase kahit naman off hire ang barko, there are certain regulations na kailangan paring nasa safe manning requirement ang barko...that is, officers & petty officers should be onboard...Kawawa yung mga ratings kase sila ang pinapa uwi...kaya ngayon..super surplus ang ratings...ang dami daming tambay...ang nang yayari tumatagal ang hintayan...mabagal ng nagiging rotation ng tao dahil sa dami ng tao...kokonti ang pag iikutan...pero again..sa ngayon sa ratings palang nang yayari yun..officers eh ok pa naman...di maxadong affected ang mga MAAP grad kase most of you are oficers naman na... ewan ko lang sa mga fresh grads...

There are also companies na nag bawas ng officers...kung dati may Junior 3/M at Jr. 4/E sa barko ngayon wla na.. ginagawa nalang senior cadet ang position...less ang sweldo pero almost the same ang job description....

Sa market salary....according to the latest Manning Agency Conference, wla pang balita kung may increase this first quarter of the year..hinihintay pa daw ng mga ship owners ang situation...kapag naging worst..malamang wlang increse...kung meron man..di tulad ng increase na naranasan natin the past years...kase nga.madami nang tambay....

Kip you posted mga dux..kapag may bagong balita...I'll post it here nalang para mabasa nyo...

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^^ salamat maam

Post  tolentino_05 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:19 am

Thanks po for the Bird's eye view ng industry natin.Smile

More power.Smile

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Post  Admin on Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:01 pm

This topic is now a Thread (more than 5 replies from different users).
The Threadsetter (philip cruz 05) receives additional 1 merit.

I will move this thread to finance.

Thank you all for your support.

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re ply lang...

Post  gpinosanto2008 on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:06 pm

sa nyk kami mga class 2008, papasakayin pa rin kami as junior officers..

mighty NYK!!!!!

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Re: Recession.. affected ba tau?? or affected na??

Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:53 pm

ang yayabang nyo naman paMAAP maap pa kayo...

maap and the rest pa....

kahit maap kayo kung wala naman kayong diskarte walang silbi pagka MAAP nyo...

ang dami ngang guhit, asset naman kulang...

ang bigat ng trabaho, ang baba naman ng sweldo...

bagsak na katawan mo, kapos pa rin...

diskarte ang kailangan...

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Post  IE_tayko08 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:56 pm

Opo affected na po tau... In order to survive dapat po mag specialize. Ramdam na rin po ng mga on board kadete ng 2010 ung crisis sa shipping industry...Peo kaya po natin to basta me tiyaga, diskarte, at pananalig lng po. God bless po. Very Happy

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Post  IE_tayko08 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:58 pm

Opo affected na po tau... In order to survive dapat po mag specialize. Ramdam na rin po ng mga on board kadete ng 2010 ung crisis sa shipping industry...Peo kaya po natin to basta me tiyaga, diskarte, at pananalig lng po. God bless po. Very Happy

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Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 on Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:03 am

ramdam na ba???

anu ba yung diskarte na sinasabi mo tayko'08,..

share mo naman baka matuto kami sa'yo... kasi inaamin ko hindi naman porke't

upperclass ako alam k na lahat syempre may alam din kayo na hindi ko alam...

tama ba yun'08?

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Post  IE_tayko08 on Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:30 pm

Sir di naman po. Xempre po mas may alam po kayo sa akin po kasi baguhan pa lang po ako sa industry natin. Sir ung diskarte po na un eh ung pag gawa lang naman po nang tamang decisions po careerwise. Me isa pong president ng manning agency na nagsabi sa akin na in these times of financial crisis mas masisiguro daw ung employment ng isang seafarer kung mag iisspecialize daw po. He is pertaining po into taking an off shore assignment. Right now daw po un ung hindi affected masyado ng crisis sir at pinaka stable daw po with regards to employment. I am being recruited by the said agency kaya I don't know if he is bluffing. Right now sige pa rin po ung release nila ng mga bagong barko for off shore and in dire need po sila ng crew na ipupuno po dun. I haven't decided yet po sir kasi I'm still weighing my options and making sure po na tama ung magiging diskarte ko po. Un lang naman po sir isa na rin po ung pakikisama po. Sir kung me ma iaadvice pa po kau sakin po regarding sa pag babarko po aside po dun sa lesser work more income po na guiding principle ko na rin po thank you very much po. Very Happy

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Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:50 am

di naman, mas may alam pa rin jan yung mga batch ko lalo na yung mga nakaupo sa opisina, ako kasi "alachamba" lang ako e...
offshore? dinig ko nga ha... mas malaki nga raw ang sweldo jan at short contract lang daw pero sabi nila sa deck lang daw may kinukuha... ewan ko lang ha kasi wala din ako alam diyan sa offshore pero marami nagsasabi na ok daw jan... try mo rin... kasi pag di mo sinubukan di mo malalaman... mas hilig ko kasi yung maraming pinupuntahan lallo na yung mga tourist spot yun ang hilig ko kasi ayoko lang ng isang place... ikaw nasasayo yan kung saan ka masaya suportahan kita...

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Post  IE_tayko08 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:27 am

Hehe thank you sir. Oo nga raw po may parang 6 months on 3 months off daw po yung iba. Yun nga lang po sir tama po kayo. May nakausap po ako sa training center nung minsan na galing po ng off shore yun po yung sabi niya na swerte na raw po kung makapunta sila ng lupa after 3 months po. Hehe sir thank you po ulit. God bless Cool cheers

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Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:37 am

thank you ? saan? wala naman ako natulong ahhh? ang bababit naman ng mga '08 wala bang merits ang mga mababait? i recommend batch '08 for merits point...

pede ba yung ganito?

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Post  ry_globa03 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:07 pm

daNiel ma' RopET's '03 wrote:ang yayabang nyo naman paMAAP maap pa kayo...

maap and the rest pa....

kahit maap kayo kung wala naman kayong diskarte walang silbi pagka MAAP nyo...

ang dami ngang guhit, asset naman kulang...

ang bigat ng trabaho, ang baba naman ng sweldo...

bagsak na katawan mo, kapos pa rin...

diskarte ang kailangan...

(read under)


kaw lang ata yung ganito eh?.... ano sa palagay mo?

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Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:53 pm

diko gets tanong mo? sensya na tol slow kasi ako e...

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Post  almarzalmario'03 on Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:51 pm

Very Happy lol! di ko getz

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Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 on Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:08 pm

di mo rin gets bro? labo ni ryan kasi eh...

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what you thought was gold were just dust...

Post  be_tayko08 on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:23 pm

Good day Sir, Maam,Ka Dux,

Buhayin ko lang po yung thread na ito kasi po up to now applicable pa rin naman siya.
Yes we are affected by the recession no doubt about it. Right now kahit ang mighty NYK aminado na affected din.First was the PCC,then the cargo,bulk,container, what will be affected next are the tankers and then according to my other sources the off shore are the least or last to be affected. But dont put your hopes here too high. One should not be blinded by the glitter of gold and the glimmer of silver. One should still analyze and put his mind upon making their decisions. Off shore companies are bannering that they are not much affected by the recession but still you must think of the stability of ones job. Kahit malaki ibayad sa inyo ngayon sigurado ba kayong katapos ng isang kontrata ay may susunod pa ba? this one company i know offers offshore with the price of one rank lower ang pasok and lower yung pay kapag baguhan and tataas na lang siya kapag tumagal na.sounds convincing but their contracts have no guarantee na may sunod na sakay after one contract.kasi ang pagtanggap nila ng tao is somewhat palakasan din. I'm not saying all off shore are like this,i'm saying is to be thorough to all your desicions.

sabi nga ng Hapon sa isang seminar, one should not aim for a higher pay,but to a stable job. and I think he is right.

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Post  almarzalmario'03 on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:17 pm

be_tayko08 wrote:Good day Sir, Maam,Ka Dux,

Buhayin ko lang po yung thread na ito kasi po up to now applicable pa rin naman siya.
Yes we are affected by the recession no doubt about it. Right now kahit ang mighty NYK aminado na affected din.First was the PCC,then the cargo,bulk,container, what will be affected next are the tankers and then according to my other sources the off shore are the least or last to be affected. But dont put your hopes here too high. One should not be blinded by the glitter of gold and the glimmer of silver. One should still analyze and put his mind upon making their decisions. Off shore companies are bannering that they are not much affected by the recession but still you must think of the stability of ones job. Kahit malaki ibayad sa inyo ngayon sigurado ba kayong katapos ng isang kontrata ay may susunod pa ba? this one company i know offers offshore with the price of one rank lower ang pasok and lower yung pay kapag baguhan and tataas na lang siya kapag tumagal na.sounds convincing but their contracts have no guarantee na may sunod na sakay after one contract.kasi ang pagtanggap nila ng tao is somewhat palakasan din. I'm not saying all off shore are like this,i'm saying is to be thorough to all your desicions.

sabi nga ng Hapon sa isang seminar, one should not aim for a higher pay,but to a stable job. and I think he is right.

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Post  michaeljohnesplago08 on Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:28 am

eventually the maritime industry is the mirror of the world economy... as of now dependent pa rin ang world economy sa oil so the least we could expect is for a lower salary from tankers though as of the moment some companies are actually increasing... This recession might be bad in effect for the rest but surely will be a good opportunity for others to start, be strong and all avenues are now open... if you stick with the conventional ways that are stable before the crisis you ain't getting no where. so what i suggest for seafarers, keep on training and whenever your fleet allows you to have a wider range of vessel types go ahead... tankers will still be on the rise in the next years it will still take time before the green-efficient energy sources shoots up... the airlines may fall to their knees but the maritime industry cant. And it must not because when it does the half of the world's population will die... Keep on propelling the world economy dux!

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Post  cj bugayong2005 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:40 am

affected n! well nun una akala ko ndi masyado mararamdaman ng shipping ind, ngaun for example ung principal nmin s cf sharp so to speak eh,, may mga barko n cla n ng offhire and ung iba wala tlgang byahe.. so ang nangyari ngaun ang hirap n mkasakay, hay life!!!

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OO affected na tayo

Post  JaimeAustria'05 on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:56 pm

Lalo na si Bugayong apektadong apektado!!! Kaya bok payo ko lipat ka na... kahit maliit bigay.. makalipat ka lang..
dami naman jan, ng-offer..

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