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Management Level Course

Post  pulgan05 on Tue May 12, 2009 10:25 am

seniors,bonkies,and juniors..

good day,any news about the MLC? is it cancelled??for implementation,or implemented already.if the latter may i have any info regarding the matter.

Big thanks to one and all
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Re: Management Level Course

Post  Cj BuGaYoNg 2005 on Tue May 12, 2009 12:57 pm

ha joms?

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  ItchiDeLaCruz'03 on Wed May 13, 2009 10:13 am

sa ngayon daw eh conditional sya eh... kapag pumasa ka sa 1st or 2nd take mo ng C/M, 2/E exams function 3 lang ng MLC ang kukunin mo para sa COC... pero kapag sa 3rd take(or more) ka pumasa tsaka ka required kumuha ng MLC functions 1,2 and 3...

yan sabi sa akin eh baka may mas well informed jan paki-share naman dito...

tsaka gaano katagal ba yung mga MLC per function???

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  ItchiDeLaCruz'03 on Wed May 13, 2009 10:23 am

http://www.fame.org.ph/industryuploads/PRC%20Resolution%2008-12.pdf

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Post  dextenorio04 on Wed May 13, 2009 2:00 pm

mga dux,,,check nyo to tungkol sa mlc...www.samlo.ph nandyan lahat ng tungkol sa mlc...pati kung gaano kahaba mga course.................

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  ItchiDeLaCruz'03 on Wed May 13, 2009 7:58 pm

11 days daw ang function 3 eh sabi sa mga training center sa atin... 11k yung function 3.. info ko yan galing sa FEMFI which unfortunately hindi na muna nagooffer kasi nga pending pa re-accreditation nila sa MTC or something like that...

pero atleast may idea tayo kung magkano and gaano katagal.. yung iba share naman jan ng first hand info kung meron...

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  ItchiDeLaCruz'03 on Wed May 13, 2009 9:42 pm

dextenorio04 wrote:mga dux,,,check nyo to tungkol sa mlc...www.samlo.ph nandyan lahat ng tungkol sa mlc...pati kung gaano kahaba mga course.................

okay itong website na nakita mo... thanks...

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Post  dextenorio04 on Thu May 14, 2009 6:46 pm

ItchiDeLaCruz'03 wrote:
dextenorio04 wrote:mga dux,,,check nyo to tungkol sa mlc...www.samlo.ph nandyan lahat ng tungkol sa mlc...pati kung gaano kahaba mga course.................

okay itong website na nakita mo... thanks...
welcome sir,,,parang balik grade one tayo kapag kinuha natin yan lahat,,,actually nilalabanan nga ng united filipino seafarers union yang mlc na yan,,,hindi na daw sya makatarungan lalo na na nagkakagipitan ng mga officeres ngaun,,,lalo lang pahihirapin ng mlc na yan ang sitwasyon,,,hehehehe...yun ang last info ko tungkol jan,,,panay nga bakbak ni ramirez sa prc dahil jan,,hehehehe..ingats....

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  ItchiDeLaCruz'03 on Thu May 14, 2009 8:43 pm

nabasa ko nga rin yun eh nadala pa nga daw sa senate eh kaya naging conditional nalang din... iba ibang pananaw din yan yung iba sinasabi na tataas standard natin iba naman gastos lang din at para sa mga training center lang yan na extra kita...

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  Cj BuGaYoNg 2005 on Thu May 14, 2009 9:29 pm

ItchiDeLaCruz'03 wrote:nabasa ko nga rin yun eh nadala pa nga daw sa senate eh kaya naging conditional nalang din... iba ibang pananaw din yan yung iba sinasabi na tataas standard natin iba naman gastos lang din at para sa mga training center lang yan na extra kita...

correct sir, tataas ang standard? bkit ndi simulan s schools/ colleges, totoong gastos lng din tlaga and most of all eh malaking abala s mga officers, n alam nmn ntin n limited lng din ang vacation,db,

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  Cj BuGaYoNg 2005 on Thu May 14, 2009 9:42 pm

1. The Revised Management Level Course would no longer follow strictly the format of the 7.01/7.02 STCW Model Course, but would be the combination of relevant subjects in the A-Code, 7.01/7.02 interim courses, and especially the industry training needs.

2. The TWG were divided into sub-committees to distribute the load on the different main course outline topics. FAME and MMAP representatives were able to involve the participation of professionals who are in the manning companies to give their own inputs as to the professional and industry training requirements. In fact, FAME has spearheaded a workshop participated in by selected experienced captains and chief engineers connected with the different manning companies and members of FAME, INTERMAP, COMMA, PAMAS, FSA, PJMCC, to draw up the course outlines based on the industry needs for their management level officers on board ships. Two workshops were also conducted. The first was held in the Manila Yacht Club, the result of which was unanimously adopted by the TWG as the new format of the MLC. The second workshop was done at MAAP in Bataan to complete the objectives and syllabi of the course curriculum.

3. When the whole course curriculum and syllabi is completed, the TWG would then proceed to discuss the mode of delivery of the course, and though it is not yet final or official, we are contemplating seriously to adopt different modes of delivery or instructions for the course by modules. Like for instance, knowledge-based subjects may be done through distance learning, which means either on board ship through the practice of the profession, or ashore even not in classroom or training centers – something similar to correspondence study. Subjects which require actual exercises in navigation, seamanship, cargo handling, search and rescue may require the use of simulator and to be carried out in training centers. Equivalency of training courses like SSBT, BRM etc., are also being considered, when they correspond to certain course objectives included in the MLC. Of course, as a control measure and to ensure quality control, all perceived equivalency training course including knowledge-based training on board ship will be subjected to established assessment before accepting as having complied with certain modular subjects of the MLC.

4. By breaking the whole MLC into modular course subjects, this would now address the major concern of the marine officers and the manning industry about the length of time spent in taking the MLC (initially estimated from two to three months) and a little more for the processing of certificates and COCs. It is envisioned that it would just probably take a couple of weeks up to a month or to a maximum of two months, to finish the whole course, given the different modes of delivery earlier discussed.

5. It is also understood that once the MLC is implemented, the interim course would automatically cease. Likewise, review classes would not be really necessary as the MLC would served as the review itself, since the questionnaires for the licensure exams would be most appropriately taken from the MLC itself.

6. Finally, there is one brilliant and novel IDEA being contemplated by Capt. Jun Arcellana and fully supported by the TWG – the waiving of written licensure exams for master who have finished the MLC, and has good service record of performance as chief officer with recommendation from his previous ship captain for promotion to captain. Of course, for quality control, the chief mate would still be subject to assessment by the PRC Board prior to be granted a master mariner’s license or certificate. Surely, if the above proposals of the TWG would be officially approved by the MTC and implemented, it would definitely benefit our professionals and the whole seafaring industry.

It also goes without saying that at least our STRUGGLE to come up with an ALTERNATIVE MLC would not have been in vain.

Meantime, we will continue to closely watch and participate in the work of the MTC TWG until the completion of the formulation of the MLC to safeguard the interests and concerns of our marine officers and the manning industry.

Until then, the most prudent and wise thing to do for all of us is to continue “ROMANCING THE PHANTOM until it is finally tamed to a USER-FRIENDLY GHOST.”



By: Commodore Adonis B. Donato PCGA, M.M.
PRESIDENT, MASTERS AND MATES ASSN. OF THE PHILS INC. (MMAP)
Outstanding Seafarer of the Year, NSD, 2003
Topnotcher, PMMA Class 67

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  pulgan05 on Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:40 pm

thank you all for the info..cenxa n ngaun lang cir nkapagbukas ulit..onboard kc ngaun ako sir..another reason sir n hindi ko mabuksan ung site n pinost nu sir..anyways sir,bale ang requirements at mga trainings sir s MLC eh kukunin pa after ng board exam??at hindi before makkuha ng exam?

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as of june 1 2009

Post  Pagalan'04 on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:21 pm

since january 2009 implemented n yung MLC, ang requirements nila for 2E are ERS with assessment and Full training ng Function 4 which is 10days yun, and effective june 1 2009 nadagdag ang assessment ng function 1,2,and 3...yan yung latest sa mga engineers....sooner it will be implemented na full training sa lahat na functions...wla pang date kung kelan...paki update nalang sa mga nakakaalam...

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Re: Management Level Course

Post  pulgan05 on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:32 pm

tnx sir..pero ano un after n b ng board exam ang mga assement at training s n yan or before kmi maallowede n kumuha ng exam..

nga pla sir bumait n c hepe dto sir..ntakot kay jade..wahahaha...regards din daw pla sir sabi nila dto..

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