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Post  be_tayko08 Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:42 am

Good day sir,ma'am,Ka-DUX,

We all know that the only thing constant in this life is change.Although we cannot stop the flow of change,we have the power to control the direction its heading wether for the worst or for the best.

We all saw the changes happening inside the academy as we progress from 4th class to 1st class. The improvements of the facilities, the increase in numbers of the students,new instructors.new barracks,new admin. all in all MAAP is changing,the only question is, is it for the betterment or to its downfall.

The aim of this topic is to see if our dear Alma Mater is still going on the right track or going off the cliff of being just another academy,or rather just another maritime school.
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Post  Guest Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:41 am

ang lalim dude!!!

hehehe..

all i can say is let's expect the worst and hope for the best...

we have our great President and families there, i guess all the changes happened there are for the good.. time comes and time will call for our part.

for now, let's make good changes too in our own lives, more power everyone!

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Post  navigator_acelador08 Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:25 pm

DUX don`t expect for the worst but Plan for the best; instead of hoping for the best why not prepare for the worst?
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Post  mrmontecillo2006 Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:36 pm

Change is something na hindi natin ma-control and we all know that's a fact pero with that, we just can't look at things negatively... most of the time, hindi natin nakikita kung may maganda ba siyag naidudulot kaagad.. it's not that i agree to everything that's going on right now.. what i'm trying to say is, let's look at how it's progressing- if positive ba or negative.. we cannot just make assumptions right away.
It would be best if we observe and then ASSESS given the right time and as an Alumni, we do our part by thinking of solutions on the foreseen problems rather than complain and complain..Smile
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Post  daNiel ma' RopET's '03 Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:40 pm

nice topic nanaman...

ang masasabi ko lang ay....


ang cute ng stuff toyS mo...
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Post  michaeljohnesplago08 Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:52 am

All I can say about change is like a tsunami! If your riding it your definitely enjoying it... If your not enjoying it your definitely swamped by it...

Again, this is one of the most critical and complicated topics that will be ever raised in every institution and believe me it will always come from the new roots...

piece of advice...

However conscious you are to see the things that must be changed and improved, unconsciously you might be just having your own standards and opinion stated...

like the current senate president said...

Being elected to the presidency is a challenging job but being a president is hell lot a diffent matter... -Juan Ponce Enrile
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Post  Lofranco06 Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:23 pm

"yeah"
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Post  tolentino_05 Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:49 am

We, members of the Long Blue Line inherently care. Action must also be integral in 'seeing' (the aim of this topic).

Up for this topic. Full speed ahead.

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Post  Edel Reniedo-Kutukovs 06 Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:01 am

He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery. ~Harold Wilson

If you don't like something change it; if you can't change it, change the way you think about it. ~Mary Engelbreit

It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory. ~W. Edwards Deming

All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another. ~Anatole France

When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves. ~Victor Frankl

Without accepting the fact that everything changes, we cannot find perfect composure. But unfortunately, although it is true, it is difficult for us to accept it. Because we cannot accept the truth of transience, we suffer. ~Shunryu Suzuki

There is a certain relief in change, even though it be from bad to worse! As I have often found in travelling in a stagecoach, that it is often a comfort to shift one's position, and be bruised in a new place. ~Washington Irving

Just because everything is different doesn't mean anything has changed. ~Irene Peter

If nothing ever changed, there'd be no butterflies. ~Author Unknown

It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. ~Author unknown, commonly misattributed to Charles Darwin

All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward. ~Ellen Glasgow

If you want to make enemies, try to change something. ~Woodrow Wilson

Continuity gives us roots; change gives us branches, letting us stretch and grow and reach new heights. ~Pauline R. Kezer

It's the most unhappy people who most fear change. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Second Neurotic's Notebook, 1966

People don't change. Only their costumes do. ~Gene Moore

If you want to truly understand something, try to change it. ~Kurt Lewin

Things do not change; we change. ~Henry David Thoreau

Our only security is our ability to change. ~John Lilly

Sudden resolutions, like the sudden rise of the mercury in the barometer, indicates nothing but the changeableness of the weather. ~Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two Brothers, 1827

The only man I know who behaves sensibly is my tailor; he takes my measurements anew each time he sees me. The rest go on with their old measurements and expect me to fit them. ~George Bernard Shaw

We may chose our own definition.

tolentino_05 wrote:Action must also be integral in 'seeing' (the aim of this topic).

To have action, seeing is a very simple way of identifying problems/changes.. we can either study, observe or might as well discuss the changes that is happening in MAAP. but who are we to tell that "this.. or this.." is changing positively or negatively, "have we been to MAAP lately?", "have we been talking to people working/moving around the academy?", or "have we experienced or felt the change we would like to talk about?"

Just a piece of advice, talking about the changes in MAAP as a whole will not further bring this discussion to it's goal. We can might as well discuss our experiences/observations with the present condition of either of the following; (1) DMA, its task/encouragement to the mdn fleet (2) MDN FLEET, does the tradition runs through (3) KP MAG, reason behind why not even a single mag is published (4) MDWN, reason behind nomore female tac-o/tac-po (5) and so forth...

hoping i am making a point...
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Post  be_tayko08 Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:59 pm

My fellow Dux,

changes happen everyday,if change is like a tsunami, one cannot always ride on it since it would spell destruction to others,and if you get swamped by,it will be to one's own destruction.

The flow of change is different to the flow of time,although both are constant,we cannot make time,BUT WE CAN MAKE CHANGE.

We cannot always go with the flow,and be blinded with the fast paced current.Yes I agree,not all changes are geared towards negative effects there are also changes for the good and they are called improvements and we must aim for that;and if change is inevitably negative,we should plan for that.

However,are the things needed to be changed to Our dear alma mater been done or diminishing changes been neglected because She let herself go with the flow without knowing that the current was actually heading to the edge of a fall.

What say you?
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Post  gpinosanto2008 Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:32 pm

recruit ng instructors for deck and engine. saka mga taong (kilala muna kung sino kau) hindi kinukupal ang mga first class kundi tingan ang fourth class midshipmen. <this is the root cause of that "change" what you are talking about>

i hope tama ang sinabi ko..

maayos lang na criticism ang habol ko..
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Post  venus05 Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:25 am

anong kaguluhan ito...mag hi hi lng ako kay batchmate baldemor!
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Post  gpinosanto2008 Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:56 pm

hi. ma'am. wala na naman po problem. na open lang ng alumni na nakakaobserve na change...

I open ko lang yung topic na to...

may nakita ako na fourth class midshipman reported at intramuros manila.( magrereport ako update ko lang final balance)last december 2009. then yung oversea cap ay nakalagay sa left shoulder ng black jacket (tama pa ba ang tawag ko a uniform na to?) at nakasuksok pa dun sa lagayan ng shoulder loop. then wala pang shoulder loop na pang fourth class!!! (nani?!?!) anu yan pauso? hmmmm.... style ng batch 2013 desu ka?

DAME DA!!!
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Post  Edel Reniedo-Kutukovs 06 Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:18 am

gpinosanto2008 wrote:hi. ma'am. wala na naman po problem. na open lang ng alumni na nakakaobserve na change...

I open ko lang yung topic na to...

may nakita ako na fourth class midshipman reported at intramuros manila.( magrereport ako update ko lang final balance)last december 2009. then yung oversea cap ay nakalagay sa left shoulder ng black jacket (tama pa ba ang tawag ko a uniform na to?) at nakasuksok pa dun sa lagayan ng shoulder loop. then wala pang shoulder loop na pang fourth class!!! (nani?!?!) anu yan pauso? hmmmm.... style ng batch 2013 desu ka?

DAME DA!!!

well, simple it may seem but it matters.. nwawala na tlg ung mga tradition and culture sa mga existing mdn ngaun..

share ko lng.. when the Dual Cdts Class 2012 reported at Maersk Office last Nov09, nka leave si Marie_06.. so i took over on her absence.. upon observing, ang dami sknila ang ngsukbit ng liberty bag on their shoulders.. nung punahin ko.. i asked them if they know na bawal un.. wlang sumagot.. ;(

disappointing..
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Post  gpinosanto2008 Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:49 pm

well self improvement na lang. my opinion is, see na ang isang midshipman ay successful sa training in their "own standards" KAPAG ang mga juniors ay humawak ng juniors nila then ang juniors na yung ay na na cocomply ang training.

e.g example ko lang.

year 2004
2005 - first class
2008 - fourth class

year 2007
2008 - first class
2011 - fourth class

kapag ang fourth class ay nadisiplina ng maayos. (except in our ruling years = KILALA MO KUNG SINO KAU!!) then yung 2005 ay masasabing displinado tlga kc napasa nya yung sa 2008 then napasa din sa 2011.

gets ba? magulo cguro ang explaination ko. paki unawa na lang.. Question Exclamation

fair winds dux!
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Post  randyescano04 Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:39 pm

gpinosanto2008, hey man wat r u trying to explain...? elaborate....
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Post  dexter_06 Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:42 am

sa akin lang naman eh hindi rin natin masisisi ang mga 4th class, kasi maaaring may kasalanan din tayong mga seniors, puede rin na may pagkukulang ang DMA. ewan ko kung tama ba ako o hindi pero ito yung nakikita ko noon. sana eh nauunawaan nyo yung ibig kong sabihin. para sa akin eh lahat naman tayo eh may pag kukulang.
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Post  be_tayko08 Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:49 am

Please read TO MY DISMAY post by Sir ACEmanok04_gonzales.
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